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Since exploring climate risk during his studies at the University of Washington, Soapbox Project member Sam Shugart became passionate about understanding how to mobilize people and resources to improve systems that influence our energy landscape. Now working at the utility company Puget Sound Energy (PSE) as a New Product Analyst, Sam is helping to build an equitable energy transition for both electric and gas customers in Washington State. In this fireside chat, Sam explores how policy, existing systems, and its feedback loops influence how our world approaches climate risks.
Here’s what we’ll cover:
Reflecting on the various stakeholders and systems at play when addressing climate risks, Sam highlights the importance of systemic change for building an energy-resilient future.
What does an energy transition entail and how does it work on a global scale?
An energy transition involves shifting from carbon-intensive energy sources to non-emitting or decarbonized sources. This means generating energy in ways that reduce emissions and adapting our systems to handle these changes smoothly. The goal is to minimize climate risks, which are typically categorized into physical risks (like hurricanes and fires) and transition risks (the risks to economies, governments, and companies as they move to decarbonized energy systems).
What are some observations or feedback loops you've noticed when different stakeholders approach these risks?
A major challenge is that stakeholders define these systems differently. It leads to varied approaches in implementing resilience and improving systems. I got interested in how these ideas are used and how we plan for future climate impacts based on different degrees of warming. Effective preparation involves understanding how to decrease physical risks through smooth transitions towards decarbonized energy.
How do different stakeholders think about these risks?
In my previous work, I've noticed that stakeholders, such as insurance companies, corporates, and utilities, have different metrics and methods for measuring risks. Insurance companies model risks to predict impacts, while corporate stakeholders focus on reporting and adapting to risks. Utilities, on the other hand, have to plan for both physical impacts and the transition to decarbonized energy. There are significant challenges in agreeing on how to measure emissions and impact.
Why is it important to understand climate risk?
Understanding climate risk is important for developing a shared framework to address the oncoming risks to our systems and responding equitably. This involves recognizing and addressing inequalities, especially in how utilities and other actors have traditionally contributed to these disparities. By understanding the historical legacies of harm, current structural problems, and growing risks, we can create more equitable systems.
What are some projects you're working on to create a more equitable energy transition?
My team at PSE focuses on customer-facing new products and services such as EV charging and residential batteries. We're working on programs that incentivize people to install residential batteries or connect devices such as smart thermostats, which the utility can use to meet peak energy demand. Our goal is to shift when energy is consumed, which in turn lowers peak demand. . We're also designing incentive programs in collaboration with community-based organizations to ensure that highly impacted communities benefit from the energy transition.
Have you encountered additional challenges in implementing these new models for communities?
Yes, the utility space is inherently risk-averse, focusing on safe, reliable, and low-cost power. Introducing new systems requires significant changes and faces resistance. There are also political pushbacks, and balancing new initiatives with existing infrastructure needs is challenging. Understanding the broader landscape and working with external research groups helps navigate these challenges.
What has surprised you about the systems at play since working directly with them?
I've been surprised by how quickly people are recognizing the embedded political and economic nature of these problems. There's a growing acknowledgment that addressing these challenges requires more than just better business models—it needs systemic change. The legislative efforts in Washington state are a good example of how direct and targeted policies can drive these necessary changes.
How can people who don't work directly in the energy space think more holistically about this topic and take action in their communities?
Look for opportunities where energy-related laws or reforms are being discussed publicly. Engage with your local legislators—many don't hear from their constituents enough. Advocate for building resilient and equitable futures. Involvement at the local level can drive significant change.
Also, stay informed and engaged. Recognize that these transitions are complex and require broad support from various stakeholders. Advocate for policies and programs that promote equitable and sustainable energy solutions. When we work together, we can create a more resilient energy future.
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